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- proofreadについてなど、ChatGPTへのプロンプトを本文と誤認している場合もあるかも。
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"Hello and welcome to our program, the TEDX Talks, a series of interviews with tech-conscious experts to discover all around the world how technology is changing the world, and how can we make some of the best challenges more accessible to all. TED Talks is brought to you by the Penn State Public Library. With a unique perspective, we'll dive into the digital conversation. He's the author of Atomic Habits, which has sold over 15 million copies and might be the most practical book I've ever read. He has a remarkable capacity for distilling complex ideas about behavior change into actionable insights which he features in his weekly newsletter 3-2-1. I wrote one of the advance endorsements for his book but this is the first time we've ever spoken, and I have some habits I'm ready to change. So, tell me, how did you get interested in habits? Early on, like when I was a kid,
The main areas where I learned about habits were through sports and through school. And I liked both of those things. But I wasn't thinking about it in any way that I would describe now. Like I didn't have any language for it, I was just trying to go to practice and do a good job that day. And then in high school, I had this really serious injury. I was hit in the face with a baseball bat. And it was an accident, the bat slipped out of my classmates' hands and struck me right between the eyes and it shattered both eye sockets, broke my nose, broke my ethmoid bone which is a little deeper inside your skull, behind your nose, and I sort of stumbled back into school and I started answering questions at the nurse's office but I wasn't answering them very well. You know, they'd be like, what year's it? And I would say 1998, but it was actually 2002. I was there but not really, and then they asked me who my mom was and it took me like 10 seconds to answer her name. I lost consciousness, taking her on a stretcher to the hospital, and then I started struggling with basic functions like swallowing and breathing. Had to be intubated. I lost the ability to breathe on my own, and then I was getting ready to go into surgery
When we got to the larger hospital and I had a seizure. It was actually the second one that I had had that day. And they decided that I was too unstable to undergo an operation right then. So they put me in this medically induced coma and I stayed in the coma overnight. And it was this really long process of recovering from that injury. Couldn't drive a car for nine months, I was practicing basic motor patterns like walking in a straight line at physical therapy, I had double vision for weeks, and all I wanted to do was to flip a switch and go back to being this young, normal, healthy person than I was before. And it was the first time in my life when I was really forced to start small. I had to just focus on what can I do at physical therapy that feels like a small win today? Cause I really can't do much right now. And gradually I made my way back and eventually was able to drive a car again and then eventually a year or so later I got back on the baseball field and ultimately ended up playing in college.
I look back on that time now and I have a language for it. I have a way to describe and say, oh, you know, I was just trying to get 1% better each day. I was trying to make these small improvements and build habits. But I never would have said that at the time if you had come up to me. And so I think I had that personal experience with building small habits and recovering from the injury. And 10 years later, when I was writing Atomic Habits, But then I started to think about those concepts more carefully, read some of the research on it, wrestle with how that meshed with my personal experience in the topic and ultimately I think it makes the writing better. Because the truth is I struggle with all the same things everybody else struggles with. You know, it's like do I procrastinate? Sure, all the time. You know, I'm probably procrastinating on something right now as we're talking. I knew there was a reason you took this. Yeah exactly. This is why I agreed to this conversation. What do I really not want to do? Like, let's do this instead. Do I focus too much on the goal and the result? Not enough on the system and the process? Yeah, all the time.
In a lot of ways I had to build habits to write Atomic Habits. I had to build a writing habit. I had to build habits in my business. I had to build exercise and nutrition habits just to keep myself operating at a high enough level to finish this big project. The personal experiences have made the writing better. Now, I look back on them and feel like it was a really formative experience, even though I never would have asked for it. Ideally, not everyone needs to get hit in the face with a baseball bat to learn what you've learned, but you clearly made the most of that traumatic event. Yeah, my grandpa would just say it knocked some sense into me. It sounded like it literally knocked some sense out of you first, but you earned it back and then some. So I think the first time I became aware of you and your work was when you had just written Atomic Habits, and you sent me an early copy of it, and the first thing that piqued my interest was the title.
I thought, oh, this is clever because, on the one hand, atomic forces are enormous, and then on the other hand, atoms are the smallest building blocks. And I thought that juxtaposition was really clever, and I didn't realize that you actually had a third meaning of it, too. Talk to me a little bit about what an Atomic habit is. So the first meaning of atomic can be tiny or small, like an atom, and that is kind of how I think about habits. You should scale them down and make them really easy to do, and we'll talk about a lot of that. And the second meaning is that atoms build into molecules and molecules build into compounds and it has this growth or this accumulation effect. And your habits can sort of layer on top of each other as well. They can be these units in a larger system that you're running. And it's actually the collection of habits that you have that are oriented toward your health or the collection of habits that you have oriented toward your business or so on, that drive results. It's very rarely just a single habit. And then finally, as you said, atomic can mean the source of immense energy or power.
And I think if you understand those three concepts, you sort of see the arc of the book, which is you start with changes that are small and easy to do, habits that are non-threatening and sustainable and reasonable. And you start to layer them on top of each other like units in a larger system, and you end up with these really powerful remarkable results as a byproduct. What I think was different about that from other takes on habits that I've read is the system part. Everybody's been told okay, and then get up and have a rest. Go to bed, change a habit, go to sleep in your workout clothes and then wake up in the morning and maybe you'll exercise. I'd never seen somebody so systematically, perhaps not coincidentally, say, we actually need to look at how these habits fit together and compound over time. Yeah, I think it's the collection of things that makes the biggest difference.
It's accumulation of many small improvements that ultimately drives the outcome. Your habits are like that too. If you want to read more books, just downloading Audible and putting it on your phone probably isn't going to do it on its own, but that can be one piece of the puzzle. When I wanted to start reading more, first thing I did was I selected books I was really excited about. This is one thing that people overlook when it comes to building better habits, which is the first and most enormous hurdle to cross is are you genuinely interested in it.
The most common New Year's resolution is people want to go work out at the gym, and I kind of feel like a lot of people choose working out or going to the gym because they feel like they should do it or they feel like society wants them to do it. Not because that's the version of exercise or the version of physical activity that's most exciting to them or fun to them. And you should start there. I mean, there are many ways to live an active lifestyle, or rock climb, or go for a run, or do yoga? I mean pick whatever version of it sounds the most naturally appealing to you. So, I chose books that I was excited about."
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The interview is centered on the author of the successful book "Atomic Habits", who experienced an accident that changed his life and led him to the study of habit development.
- The author suffered a major facial injury in his high school days which led to a difficult recovery period where he had to relearn basic motor functions.
- This challenging period forced him to focus on small, achievable goals each day during his recovery process.
- He reflected this experience into his book, portraying the importance of minor daily improvements and building habits systematically for achieving larger goals.
- The author further emphasized choosing habits that are genuinely appealing or exciting to the individual for the successful implementation and consistency of habits.
- このインタビューは、重大な事故が人生を変え、習慣の発展の研究に導いた成功した本「アトミック・ハビット」の著者を中心に行われています。
- 著者は高校時代に重大な顔面の怪我を負い、基本的な運動機能を再学習しなければならない困難な回復期間を経験しました。
- この挑戦的な期間は、彼に回復過程で毎日小さな、達成可能な目標に集中することを強いました。
- 彼はこの経験を彼の本に反映し、ゴールを達成するための日々の小さな改善と習慣を体系的に築くことの重要性を描き出しています。
- 著者はさらに、習慣の成功した実施と一貫性のために、個々に真剣に魅力的または興奮する習慣を選ぶことを強調しています。
★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】【英単語】
- expert（専門家）
- technology（技術）
- challenge（挑戦）
- accessible（アクセス可能な）
- endorsement（承認）
- consciousness（意識）
- physical therapy（物理療法）
- formative（形成的な）
- juxtaposition（並列）
- non-threatening（脅威のない）
【コロケーション】
- dive into（じっくりと取り組む）
- get interested in（~に興味を持つ）
- stumble back into（再び戻りつまずく）
- fill a switch（スイッチを入れる）
- make one's way back（戻る）
- build habits（習慣を築く）
- earn back（取り戻す）
- pique one's interest（興味を引く）
- scale down（規模を縮小する）
- layer on top of each other（一つ一つを積み重ねる）
- drive results（結果を生む）
- compound over time（時間とともに複合する）
- cross a hurdle（障害を乗り越える）
- work out at the gym（ジムで運動する）
"I downloaded Audible, put it on my home screen on my phone, and moved all the other apps to the second screen, so it'd be the first thing I would see. I bought some of those books in print version, and then I would sprinkle them around the house so that I was like never far from a bad idea. And then, you can also come up with a plan where you say like when I get in bed at night, I'm gonna read one page before I go to sleep. I just described four or five things there. But it's actually the collection of those things that helps drive this reading habit. It's not any one of those changes that's really gonna radically transform your life.
But if each of the changes are reasonable and each of the changes are small and in some cases they're choices that you only have to make once, you start to stack the deck in your favor and you start to have all these forces that are kinda working for you. And by creating this system that is lifting you up and supporting your habits, now you're in a much better position to fall through on them each day. I think one of the reasons that we psychologists miss this approach is we're always going to figure out what's the active ingredient. I want to pull out the one anchor habit that made the difference. And your point is actually, there isn't one.
And secondly, and maybe even more interestingly, it sounds like you did for habits what high-reliability organizations do to prevent errors, which is, they build redundant systems. Airplanes are designed, right, if one engine fails, right, to have a backup option available. In your case, if you forget the one page tonight, you're going to see it on the home screen the first thing tomorrow morning and you're probably going to make up for it. I really, I like a lot of engineering strategies and metaphors like that. You think about backup systems and redundancy and break points and all of those concepts can be applied to building habits as well.
When you're making these small changes, it doesn't hinge on any one thing the way, like you just said, like, oh, maybe there isn't an anchor point or like the one move that changes everything. But there's always a bottleneck. So in the manufacturing process, you're making a car. Maybe the car doors or the bottleneck of the process, but that doesn't mean you don't need the tires and the headlights and the roof and everything else, like you still need all the other parts, just maybe there's a higher leverage place to focus in the beginning.
So I think both of those can kind of coexist together. Maybe you need this overall system, but there are generally like higher leverage places to focus than others. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. One of the things that you've done for a lot of people is you've given them some very both non-obvious but ultimately intuitively true and actionable principles to apply to their habit change. Whenever somebody says James Clear, immediately these phrases go through my head. Like, habits are the compound interest of self-improvement. Consistency beats intensity. We don't rise to the level of our goals. We sink to the level of our systems.
Talk to me about those concepts and putting them into practice. So those phrases like that, they become shorthand for the overall strategy or approach that we're trying to take. This idea of habits of the compound interest of self-improvement, so that's the first one you mentioned. Time will magnify whatever you feed it. So if you have good habits, time becomes your ally, and the changes that you're making each day, the showing up in a small way, making some small improvement, it doesn't seem like much on any given day, but it puts you on a trajectory. It puts you on a path that starts to compound and multiply over time.
If you have bad habits, time becomes your enemy, and you're on a trajectory that's moving you in the opposite direction. So I think that's actually an interesting question and I think you always have to ask yourself, which is, can my current habits carry me to my desired future? You know, intensity gets a lot of discussion. People are always gonna talk about running a marathon or doing a silent meditation retreat for a week or you know, just these things that are like, kind of, notable, and this is, I think even magnified by social media, people are almost never gonna post about the process.
You're never gonna see someone, like, post a tweet or hear a news story about, like, salad for lunch today. It's only a story once you lose a hundred pounds or something. And I think that causes us to overvalue the results a little bit and undervalue the process. We get so results oriented because it's all that we see. Consistency is what drives progress and drives results. Intensity makes a good story, but it's almost always the case that you'd rather have the foundation, the volume of work, the capacity to do the work, the habits, rather than focusing too much on the outcome.
Now, not everything in life is driven by habits. You have luck and randomness. You have misfortune, but by definition, those forces are not in your control, and your habits are, and the only rational approach in life is to focus on the elements of the situation that are within your control. So that's kind of how I think about that connection point between consistency and intensity.
During my diving days, my coach Eric Best would always quote his coach, John Narcy, and say, look, the person who wins the meet is the one who did the most dives. Mmm, the results were almost baked in. In a sense. I mean, it doesn't mean performance doesn't matter, right? You still screw it up on that day. But it's really hard to beat the person who's done that dive 10,000 times if you've only done it for a thousand, I think that's exactly right.
What I didn't understand at first and then became clear over time was how probabilistic that is. Right. That a person with the best odds as the person who's put in the consistent effort day in, day out. But I think what you've also added to that is the idea that the quality of those habits really matters. And I think this is where systems become a big deal, because I think a lot of people took the ten-thousand-hours rule and said, okay, this is a quantity game. And what I have to do is put in the sheer number of hours. And you're saying, wait a minute, no, there are a bunch of ways to work a lot smarter. And I'm going to help you understand what those are. So what are those?
Yeah. I think we all want to know. Ravikant has this good distinction where he says, it's not 10,000 hours, it's 10,000 iterations. And I think there's a lot of truth in that, repetition is hard enough on its own, but to try to get 1% better each day, to try to improve it and iterate it is a totally different game. And I think it changes your perspective a little bit. You know, you're not showing up in a lazy way. You're not just trying to like punch the clock and put your time in. You're trying to have this attitude, this mindset where you're looking for some small advantage to carve out.
So I think the first step there is like this mindset, this attitude of trying to get 1% better each day and realizing that it's not really about measuring it, it's not like, oh, is it a 1% improvement, or 1.6% or whatever. It's not like getting caught up in the number, it's more this approach, and a philosophy of not just showing up and putting the time in, but trying to genuinely find some way to improve, and trusting that those small improvements really add up. It's really important to ask yourself, what is this system oriented toward? What am I optimizing for? Sometimes people optimize for making more money, sometimes they optimize for free time, and creative freedom, sometimes they optimize for family time, I mean, there can be an endless list, but it's a very personal answer. And you should be wary of inheriting or imitating other people's habits.
Start by asking yourself, is this what I want my days to look like? So I think starting there is a really important part of building a better system. Maybe for me the most counterintuitive idea in Atomic Habits is to focus a little bit less on what you wanna achieve and a little bit more on who you want to become. This flies in the face of everything I've ever taught on goal-setting and a lot of the research I've read on it. It's not immediately clear to people that if I want to achieve something, I should actually turn my attention to get away from that and say instead, what kind of person do I wanna be. And yet I think it can be extremely powerful, so I wanna hear you riff on that a little bit.
So we often talk about habits as mattering because of the external results they'll drive for us."
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The interviewee uses Audible and books scattered around the house as frequent reminders to read more and develop the habit. Small changes, such as reading before bed, are implemented to help build this habit.
- インタビュイーは、もっと読むための習慣を養うために、頻繁に本を読むようにするためのAudibleや家の中に散らばった本を使っています。寝る前に読むなど、この習慣を養うために小さな変更を実施しています。
- The interviewee equates instilling habits with high-reliability organizations' redundant systems. If one aspect fails, another element steps in to support the habit's formation. This approach considers habits as built-in backup systems.
- インタビュイーは、習慣を身につけることを高信頼性組織の冗長なシステムに等しいと考えています。一つのアスペクトが失敗しても、別のエレメントが習慣の形成をサポートするためにステップインします。このアプローチでは、習慣を組み込まれたバックアップシステムとして考えます。
- The interviewee proposes that when undertaking multiple small changes, no single change drastically shapes everything. There exists a higher leverage place to initially focus like an overall system, but the "bottleneck" is not the only essential component.
- インタビュイーは、複数の小さな変化をとり組む時、ひとつの変化が全体を劇的に形成するわけではないと提案しています。全体的なシステムのように、初めに焦点を当てるべきレバレッジの高い場所が存在しますが、「ボトルネック」が唯一の必要な要素ではありません。
- The interviewee espouses consistency over intensity, claiming that regular habits are more impactful than focusing solely on outcomes. He advises focusing on elements under personal control and discarding elements subjected to luck or randomness.
- インタビュイーは、強度よりも一貫性を主張し、定期的な習慣が結果のみに焦点を当てるよりも影響力があると主張しています。彼は、個人の制御下にある要素に焦点を当て、運やランダムさに影響を受ける要素を捨てることをアドバイスします。
- The interviewee encourages cultivating a system that aligns with personal aspirations and daily life. He suggests redefining the focus from achieving the end-goals to becoming the desired person. He believes in the significance of external results but also highlights the potential and impact of continuous small improvements.
- インタビュイーは、個人の願望と日常生活に合わせたシステムを育てることを推奨します。彼は、終点の目標を達成することから、望ましい人物になることに焦点を再定義することを提案します。彼は外部の結果の重要性を信じていますが、同時に連続した小さな改善の可能性と影響を強調しています。
★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】
- Audible（オーディブル）
- James Clear（ジェームズ・クリア）
- Eric Best（エリック・ベスト）
- John Narcy（ジョン・ナーシー）
- Ravikant（ラヴィカント）
- Atomic Habits（アトミック・ハビッツ）
【英単語】
- redundant（冗長）
- habit（習慣）
- trajectory（軌道）
- consistency（一貫性）
- intensity（強度）
- misfortune（不運）
- iteration（反復）
- mindset（心構え）
- optimization（最適化）
【コロケーション】
- download an app（アプリをダウンロードする）
- print version（印刷版）
- come up with a plan（計画を考え出す）
- drive a habit（習慣を駆動する）
- make a difference（違いをつくる）
- prevent errors（エラーを防ぐ）
- backup system（バックアップシステム）
- make changes（変化をもたらす）
- focus on elements（要素に焦点を当てる）
- put into practice（実践に移す）
- small improvement（少しの改善）
- consistent effort（一貫した努力）
- improve each day（日々改善する）
- genuinely find something（本当に何かを見つける）
- get 1% better each day（毎日１％改善する）
- focus on who you want to become（誰になりたいかに焦点を当てる）
"But I think the real reason, the true reason that habits matter, is that they reinforce your desired identity. Every action you take is like a vote for the type of person you wish to become. No, writing one sentence may not finish the novel, but it does cast a vote for 'I'm a type of person who writes every day.' You start to cast votes, and kind of build up this pile of evidence for who you are, and it starts to shift the weight of the story. And so the habits that are linked to the aspects of our identity that we take pride in; there's something about them that feels more natural to you where it's like, this is just kind of the person that I am. It's more like how do I get alignment between my goals and my identity? How do I start with this picture of who I would like to become and how my habits feed into that and trust that ultimately, it can carry me toward some of these results that I say are so important to me.
I think it's an elegant explanation of why Christopher Bryan sometimes finds these neat noun-over-verb effects. Like, if you want to get kids to stop cheating in school, instead of saying 'don't cheat,' you say 'don't be a cheater.' And all of a sudden, that action reflects on my identity, and I don't want to be the kind of person who cheats.
Similar effects on the positive side with getting kids to help by saying 'be a helper,' instead of help, and getting citizens to vote by saying, 'be a voter,' right? That's a vote cast for the kind of person I want to become. I love that. I think it's time for lightning round; let's do it.
You're a fan of book recommendations, I am too. What's a book you think all our rethinking and work life listeners should read or listen to that they might not have already heard of? I've really been on this kick of trying to find books that have compressed wisdom. One that I really like that's 500 years old is called The Art of Worldly Wisdom by Balthazar Gracious. I was reading this thing, I was like, man, this guy was like me like 500 years ago. He was like blogging way before it was a thing. So I thought that one was really useful.
On the subject of compression, one of the things I really admire about you is how good you are at framing, and reframing ideas. I've sort of had a negative opinion of what you call compression because it sounds to me like hacking or shortcuts.
And you've made me think differently about it. How did you land there on that one? There are some challenges, like it squeezes out nuance. I would say that's a definite negative. The upside is that it's sticky and then it's easy to remember. I think biology has this phrase, where it says, 'you want this bumper sticker that expands into a PhD thesis,' and I think about it like that. Like what's the bumper sticker that can remind me of this bigger, more important idea?
I haven't had someone tell me this before, what you just said that I was good at reframing ideas, but that actually might be the only value that I really provide. I mean, the truth is, most things have been covered many times before. I mean, there's 8 billion people in the world and there's a hundred billion that have lived before us. All this stuff is very well-trod ground. It's very rare that you come across something genuinely new. But maybe I can give somebody a new angle on it, or maybe I can provide clarity to the thought where if someone says, 'Oh, you know, I'd never quite heard it put that way before.'
For the record, I think you strike a really good balance between articulating things that people believe but haven't been able to verbalize, and then also challenging some of the assumptions they hold that actually turned out to be false. And I think it's the combination of those two that makes your words so powerful.
So, you profess to be a fan of architecture and travel photography. So I'm going to combine those two and ask, what's your favorite place you've gone to photograph architecture?
Saint Petersburg, Russia, is a wild city because the Tsar basically went around Europe and just plucked buildings. Like, I like that one, and let's go build one in Russia. Go to Vienna and be like, I like that one. Let's go build one like that. So, it just has this really wide-ranging variety of architecture. It also has tons of bridges and canals and water traversing all over the city. And so you end up in this interesting situation where they put the bridges up at night, I don't remember exactly, but let's say it's from 1 a.m. to 4 a.m. So, if you're out at the bar and it's 1240, you're like, 'all right guys, we gotta make a decision, are we going back home now or are we gonna stay out until 4 a.m.?' Because the bridges are going up soon.
I thought St. Petersburg was fascinating. On that subject also, ultra-light travel is one of your passions. What's your favorite tip for lightening the travel load?
When I would travel on my own, I would always only travel with one bag. I still do that now. I mean, like you, Adam, I do have to do a lot of speaking gigs. The biggest point of friction is always shoes. So if you can figure out a way to have one pair of shoes that are diverse enough in their use cases to cover the trip, then the rest of it is usually pretty easy.
I agree with everything you said, except for the part where you said, 'I have to do a lot of speeches.' You get to do a lot of speeches. That's a choice. We could have a long discussion about this. I had a weightlifting coach in college who we would come in, you know, everybody's complaining about the workout and how hard it is and blah, blah, blah. He's like, 'Okay, listen, you don't have to do it, you get to do it. You don't have to take your kids to school. You get to take your kids to school. You don't have to show up at work today. You get to show up at work today.' And that little reframe of 'have to' versus 'get to,' it has stuck with me for, you know, 20 years now.
You're a fan of great speeches. What's a speech you love that I've probably not seen?
So on JamesClare.com, I have this page where it's called 'Great talks that most people have never heard.' And over the last five years or so, I've just collected transcripts from different speeches. Sometimes it's a graduation speech, a little school. Sometimes it's an internal talk that got posted on YouTube years later.
And the one that prompted the whole project is this talk given by Richard Hamming, who was this engineer at Bell Labs. And it was this internal talk he gave called 'You and Your Research.' And it's about doing scientific research, but it's actually about way more than that. There are just like lessons for everybody in life that are baked in there.
And he has so many good little questions in there that as soon as you hear them, you're like, 'Oh, good.' Like, sometimes my favorite questions are ones that cut a little bit, you're like, 'Oh, that just stings a little to even think about that answer.' Like one of his famous questions, he sat down at a table with a bunch of scientists who were in a different field, and he goes and sits down with them each day for lunch for like a week. And he's listening to them talk about the projects they're doing, the research that they're doing. And then eventually he asks them, 'Hey, what are some of the most important problems in your field?'
And they started listing out some of them and they realized that the projects they're working on were not oriented or related to those big problems. And so his question was, 'What are the most important problems in your field and why are you not working on them?' And that is like such an obvious thing to ask, but you could say it as an individual, 'What are the most important problems in your personal life, and why are you not working on them?'
And you start to realize like, 'Man, maybe I should be carving out a little bit more time to get extra sleep or to go to the gym or to spend more time with my kids.' You realize how much time and attention and energy is directed toward relatively low-priority problems. And in some cases, they're actually good uses of time, but they're not great uses of time.
And I think that's like one of the most dangerous things on your to-do list, are items, let's say items like three to six. But the truth is those are the items that are most likely to distract you from items one and two because you have a good justification for doing them. I think that's something we all need to pause and think about."
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The interviewee believes our habits are significant as they reinforce our desired identity. They liken every action to a vote for the type of person we want to become. Continuous actions build an aggregate identity, which can pivot our self-narrative.
- 英語の文章：我々の習慣が重要なのは、それが私たちが望むアイデンティティを補強するからだとインタビューイは信じています。彼らは、すべての行動を私たちがなりたい人の種類に投票するようなものと考えています。継続的な行動がアイデンティティを累積し、それが自己語りをピボットさせることができます。
- Shifting speech from actions to identity (e.g., 'don't cheat' to 'don't be a cheater') can enforce desired behaviors. This approach resonates better with the individual as it calls into question their identity, which is typically more confrontational than questioning their actions.
- 行動からアイデンティティへと言葉をシフトさせること（例えば、「不正をしないで」から「不正者にならないで」へ）は、望ましい行動を強化することができます。このアプローチは、アイデンティティを問いただすことが一般的に行動を問いただすことよりも直接的であるため、個々の人により共感を呼びます。
- The speaker suggests 'The Art of Worldly Wisdom' by Balthazar Gracian for readers looking for "compressed wisdom". He also debates the idea of compression, acknowledging that while it can miss nuances, it allows information to be more memorable.
- 話し手は、「凝縮された知恵」を求める読者に対して「The Art of Worldly Wisdom」を提案します。また彼は、圧縮されたアイデアについて議論し、それがニュアンスを欠くことがある一方で、情報をより覚えやすくすると認めています。
- The interviewee cites Saint Petersburg, Russia as his favorite architectural and photography destination due to its diverse architectural styles and beautiful waterways. He also shares a travel tip about packing light and minimizing shoe options.
- インタビューイは、その多様な建築様式と美しい水路のために、サンクトペテルブルク、ロシアを彼のお気に入りの建築と写真の目的地として挙げています。また彼は、荷物を軽くし、靴の選択肢を最小限にするという旅行のヒントを共有しています。
- The speaker shares a paradigm shift from "have to" to "get to", arguing that individuals have the choice to view their obligations positively. He also suggests that people focus on critical issues in their lives, acknowledging that failing to act on top-priority tasks can lead to procrastination.
- 話し手は、「しなければならない」から「やってもいい」というパラダイムシフトを共有し、個々の人々が自分たちの義務を肯定的に見る選択を持っていると主張しています。また彼は、人々が自分たちの生活の中で重要な問題に焦点を当てるべきだと提案し、最優先の課題に対処しないことが先延ばしにつながることを認めています。
★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】
- Christopher Bryan（クリストファー・ブライアン）
- Balthazar Gracious（バルタザール・グラシス）
- Vienna（ウィーン）
- Russia（ロシア）
- Saint Petersburg（サンクトペテルブルク）
【英単語】
- habit（習慣）
- identity（アイデンティティ）
- cheat（カンニング）
- positive（ポジティブ）
- recommendation（推奨）
- compression（圧縮）
- nuance（ニュアンス）
- architecture（建築）
- photography（写真撮影）
- passion（情熱）
- friction（摩擦）
- speech(スピーチ)
【コロケーション】
- reinforce your identity（アイデンティティを強化する）
- take pride in（〜に誇りを持つ）
- make a decision（決定を下す）
- lightening the travel load（旅行負荷の軽減）
- provide clarity（明確性を提供する）
- verbalize assumptions（仮定を言葉にする）
- a fan of（〜の大ファン）
- combine those two（それら2つを結合する）
- turn out to be（結果的に〜となる）
- travel on my own（一人で旅行する）
- stick with me（私と一緒についてくる）
- challenging assumptions（仮定に挑戦する）
"What are the activities in my calendar that by themselves are worthwhile, but in aggregate actually interfere with my higher priorities? What's the worst advice you've ever gotten? I do think that there's a very common pitfall that I have certainly fallen into many times which is you see someone who's successful, who's doing the thing that you hope to do, or that you aspire to do, and then you think, you know what? I'll imitate what they're doing. And the problem is that if you have just one example or one story for something, you think you're learning something, but actually you're not learning very much at all.
Most advice is very contextual. It's very dependent on the circumstances. And so in that way, advice is kind of brittle actually. If you'd step outside of that specific narrow circumstance, it doesn't hold up in the same way. Instead, what I have gradually learned to do after making many mistakes, is you want to look at 100 people who are doing the thing that you want to do. And then you try to find the commonalities or the patterns between them.
Because if you have a pattern, then there's some signal and not just noise. You just articulated why I have this knee-jerk reaction whenever somebody tells me they love learning from biographies. No, we do social science to figure out which of those insights are actually valid. And also, you're sampling on the dependent variable and you need to also read biographies of people who failed, not just the ones who succeeded and then compare them because it's in that comparison that the most meaningful patterns jump out and then, to your point, you have to run a bunch of personal experiments to figure out which of those patterns are gonna work for you.
I'm gonna give you the mic for a second and ask if there's a question you have for me. I have a personal question that I wanna know which is basically how you set up your business and how you balance your days. I don't wanna have a big team. I have one full-time employee. I have no desire to hire more. I don't want to have this big thing that I'm managing. I think management is kind of a weakness of mine. I'm better at like the creative side or like making something. That's the part that really lights me up.
So I don't want to spend much time managing. But if you step outside of the definition of an employee and look at partnerships, well, now I've got a book agent and a speaking agency. And like in your case, you've got this partnership with 10, you have the podcast production and so on. So you have a lot of people that are touching your business in some way. And I guess what I'd like to know is how you think about maximizing leverage for yourself and like kind of extending your creative reach or your ability to produce work and whether you feel like you are over-scheduled or whether you feel like you have the balance that you'd like to have.
I would answer this really differently now than I would have a couple years ago. It's been a decade since I became an author and then all these other things sort of come with it, right? That you don't realize you're opting into. I don't think that much about leverage anymore. In part, because the scale we work at is already beyond my wildest dreams. I think what I'm interested in is how do I improve the quality of what I do produce.
And I think, for me, that's meant sometimes producing less. So my first book came out in 2013. By 2017, I had published two more books. It was three books in four years. I think actually we messaged at some point in 2018, and you said, my goal for the year is to not write a book, and I thought... Call achieved! You know, it wasn't a coincidence then that it was four more years until I came out with my next book, and I really wanted to invest in learning, and that was part of why I started this podcast, was it was an excuse for me to say, like, I'm not just learning for my own curiosity.
I'm gonna learn in a way that hopefully also is interesting and useful to other people. I wasn't very structured or focused around, and podcasting created that for me. I think otherwise, I felt like I was over scheduled because I was wearing a lot of hats, and then I said, okay, one of the things that just clearly differentiates my sort of periods of creative bursts from windows where I feel like I don't produce that much of value is do I have at least two days a week with nothing on my calendar? And so then I committed to that, and I think I achieve it most weeks. There are some weeks where I fail and then the next month, I have to make a vlog I have to make make up for it basically.
Yeah, that's great, though. I love little rules of thumb like that. All right, I have one more question for you. I didn't know we were gonna do this. We could turn this into another hour where I get to interview you. Easily. All right, so we talked a little bit about some of my compression. So every action you take is a vote for the type of person you get to become, or you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your systems.
If you were to pick one or two of your best pieces of compression, what would you say that they are? The most meaningful way to succeed is to help other people succeed. What I figured out there that I didn't get when I wrote the book is, you don't have to be more successful as a giver than a taker or a matcher, but it's the kind of success that's the most rewarding. And that was the thesis I should have led with. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, no, thank you for asking. It's part of the fun of what we do.
I wanted to ask you about post-Atomic Habits. I was wowed by the clarity of the book and wanting to make all kinds of puns about your name, which you're definitely tired of. Even being really impressed by the book when I first read it, I dramatically underestimated how much impact it would have. And I think the main reason that I did that was, I felt like the habit landscape was already relatively crowded and there had been a few best sellers that were either explicitly about habits or about habit-like concepts.
And I know how hard it is to break through, even if you're a well-known author and you were very candid about saying, like, I'm just a blogger. I don't know if anybody's going to read this stuff. And this book, I think it's the most successful successful non-fiction book of the last decade, as far as I can tell. Certainly in our genre, it appears to me to be the biggest book since Outliers, and it has incredible staying power. So my question is, why? What is different about this book?
Yeah, there's a chapter later in Atomic Habits where I talk about Deliberate Practice. And it could have been a book about Deliberate Practice, where I talk about habits. But instead, and it's a book about habits, where I talk about deliberate practice. And I think the difference in how those two books would sell is pretty enormous, because deliberate practice, if you're not like familiar with it, it takes 30 seconds to unpack it and explain how it's different than regular practice.
And you don't get any of that time with a potential. No it's not sticky, and also nobody wants to practice. If you like practice you don't need this book per se, whereas everybody knows they have bad habits and they want better ones. think that what you just said is actually very important insight that people often overlook, which is if you want any product, not just a book, but any product, I think, if you want to do really well, it taps into a desire that people already have.
It doesn't try to generate or convince people of having a new desire. Classic example like Uber, you know, like, oh, totally redefined transportation, but only sort of like people already took taxis. They're not trying to convince anyone of the underlying motivation that drives the app. they're just giving them a new avenue for doing it. I am just adding my little small piece to the collective discussion about it. Like, it's a very small contribution. But I don't have to convince anybody that having good habits is desirable and breaking bad habits is desirable.
Like, people already want that. I just need to convince you this is the best book on that topic. If you want to read one thing that's the most comprehensive and useful, it's this book. Sometimes good titles actually sound a little bit strange when you first hear them. Like, the phrase atomic habits, Now, people are familiar with it. But before the book came out, it's a little strange. You might describe a habit as small, but you wouldn't describe it as atomic. Like that, it just sounds a little different, but that's actually a good thing because it means I can own that language in the reader's mind."
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The interviewee believes it is not beneficial to solely emulate the success of one individual, but rather to study a variety of successful individuals and find common patterns of behavior that can be adapted to their own lives.
(インタビュー対象者は、一人の成功者を模倣するだけでは役に立たないと考えており、むしろ様々な成功者を研究し、それらの行動の共通パターンを自身の人生に適応させることが有益だと考えています。)
- They also highlight the importance of personal experimentation to understand which patterns work uniquely for each individual.
(また彼らは、個々のパターンが各人にとってどのように機能するのかを理解するために、個人的な実験の重要性を強調しています。)
- The interviewee suggests that finding ways to maximize one's creative reach and productivity without over-scheduling or creating a large team is crucial. They mention partnerships as a good solution to this.
(インタビュー対象者は、過度なスケジューリングや大規模チームを作らないで自己の創造力の範囲と生産性を最大化する方法を見つけることが重要だと提案しています。それに対する良い解決策として、彼らはパートナーシップを挙げています。)
- They claim that in recent years, they've shifted their focus from expanding their success to improving the quality of their work, even if that means producing less.
(彼らは、近年、成功を拡大することから、作業の質を向上させることに焦点を当てるようになったと主張しています。それが作品を少なくすることを意味してもです。)
- The interviewee believes that a book or product's success lies in its ability to tap into already-existing desires and enhance them, rather than trying to create novel desires. They give their own book, "Atomic Habits", as an example of this.
(インタビュー対象者は、本や製品の成功は新たな願望を生み出そうとするのではなく、すでに存在する願望に触れ、それを高める能力にあると信じています。その例として、彼ら自身の著書「アトミック・ハビット」を挙げています。)
★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】
- Atomic Habits（アトミック・ハビッツ）
- Deliberate Practice（意識的練習）
- Outliers（アウトライアーズ）
- Uber（ウーバー）
【英単語】
- aggregate（集合）
- pitfall（落とし穴）
- contextual（文脈に依存する）
- brittle（壊れやすい）
- creative（創造的な）
- over-scheduled（スケジュールが過密な）
- dependent variable（従属変数）
- investment（投資）
- valid（妥当な）
- compression（圧縮）
- underestimate（過小評価する）
- landscape（環境）
【コロケーション】
- make mistakes（失敗する）
- hold up（持ちこたえる、耐える）
- run a personal experiment（個人的な実験を行う）
- sample on something（何かをサンプリングする）
- maximize leverage（レバレッジを最大化する）
- balance my days（私の日々をバランス取る）
- improve the quality（品質を改善する）
- opt into something（何かに参加する）
- vote for the type of person（どのタイプの人に投票する）
- make up for something（何かを補う）
- tap into a desire（欲望につながる）
- underlying motivation（根本的な動機）
"That's the title of the book, We're Small Habits. It might work a little bit, but it's just a little general. It's a little too much common language for it to really be sticky. So titles are really hard to get right because you want them to stand out, but you don't want it to be too weird. And it also needs to actually talk about what the book covers because you have to deliver on the promise that the title makes. It was really common like five years ago for books to try to do this where they would just stack a bunch of desirable things in the subtitle, and say like, you know, how to make money and be happy, find love. And they would just stack all... Yeah, like they would just stack all that stuff in there, but that's not actually what the book is genuinely about.
So you need to be able to deliver on the promises that are made. Title plays a big role, positioning plays a big role. Just one of the things that I hear you capturing that I don't think has been well articulated for people trying to position any idea is you need to be both really specific and really general at the same time, and those two things together give you distinctiveness. Habits are like that, they're this universal topic. They apply to literally everyone on the planet, but your habits are also very personal. Everybody wants to build their own, they have their own style, they got their own habits that are kind of part of their routine. So it's both personal and universal. It's both specific and general. Contrast is a really important element of good titles.
If you think about a lot of best selling books, they have this point of contrast in the title where it's a little bit surprising or it inverts the typical expectation. Four hour workweek. I thought of workweek is 40 hours. Now you're telling me it can be four. Life changing magic of tidying up. I thought tidying up was just this little thing that I did. Now you're telling me it can be life-changing. Atomic habits. Like really small habits, but also super powerful. Ultimately, my guiding light is always like, what is most useful? What is most actionable and useful for the reader? And I'm just going to do it that way.
I'm just trying to help people get results. I find that a lot of books, a lot of self-help books in particular, people talk about them as being how-to books, but they're actually what-to books. They tell you what to think or they tell you what you should do, but they don't actually tell you how to do it. It sounds like a small detail, but taking that extra step of showing people how it would actually look if you implemented this, what specific step they would take. And then giving them a couple examples. That really makes things useful. Other authors can talk about the science better. Other authors are better storytellers.
Other authors are better at a lot of things that I'm not good at. But making it actionable and useful is the main thing that I'm trying to prioritize for. I've sometimes realized what I was trying to say after the book came out, when I did the book tour. I imagine one of the blessings and curses for reaching so many people is, you've gotten a lot of feedback. What have you learned or rethought since Atomic Habits first came out?
If I had to pick one thing that I would say is more important now than I realized when I was writing the book, it would probably be the power of social environment on habits, and just how pervasive and strong that force can be. I did write about it a little bit. I have a chapter in Atomic Habits on the influence of friends and family on your behavior, but it's broader than that, and it's more powerful than that. Like we are all part of multiple groups, multiple tribes and some of those tribes are large, like what it means to be American? And some of those tribes are small and like kind of local, like what it means to be a neighbor on your street or a member of the local yoga studio or a volunteer at the local hospital.
And all of those groups, all those different spaces that you step into each day, they have a set of shared expectations for how you act. They have a set of norms for what people do there. And when habits are aligned with the social norms of that group, they tend to be pretty attractive to stick to because we don't only perform habits because of the results they'll get us. We also perform them as a signal to the people around us. Hey, I get it. I belong, I fit in, I'm part of this community. I understand how we act here. And if people have to choose between I have habits that I don't really love, but I fit in, or, I have the habits that I wanna have, but I'm cast out, I'm ostracized, I'm criticized. I mean, the desire to belong will often overpower the desire to improve.
Another way to say it that connects to one of your core points in the book is, think about the person you wanna become, and then say, okay, what kinds of groups are full of those people? Yeah, for sure. That's a great way to think about it. The scariest thing about having such a breakout success is having to follow it. I'm sure you've thought a lot about second album syndrome. At first I was wondering, is it scary to think about your next book? And then I thought, no, because this book was the result of like thousands of tweets and blog posts and you were experimenting and iterating and by the time you wrote it, you knew you had something really meaningful. So how do you think about your future writing?
You know, like the way that I think about it is, this is the best possible outcome. I'm incredibly fortunate, but Atomic Habits, it can just be a project that went really well. It doesn't have to be anything more than that. I put everything I had into it and great, it did really well and it's helping a lot of people and that's awesome. And now I can just move on to the next thing that I am excited about and I'll try to do my best on that. And it doesn't really need to be some value judgment on how much I'm worth or how creative I am or am not now or whether it is defining my career or not, it doesn't have to be that. So that's the head space I'm trying to live in.
The way that I wrote the first book is very different than how I'm writing now. So I wrote Atomic Habits when I didn't have kids. And now I do. And I had a period there for like six to nine months where I was finishing the manuscript where I worked on it for 12 hours a day. I went to sleep, I dreamt about it, I did it all over again, like, I can't do that now. It's kinda hard to get two hours where you're not interrupted when you've got kids running around. I'm like okay, I know how to write a good book, but the way that I know how to do it doesn't work for me anymore. So what does that mean?
You know, like, I kinda need to find a new angle or something. But more than anything, the most important thing is when I wrote Atomic Habits, I knew that I had something to say and I knew that was the topic that I wanted to write about and I'm still trying to figure that out for the next book. What is it really that I feel like this is so important and I have so much to say on it that I have to write a book about it? It is not an easy project and it's not a short project. So if you're just like, I want to write a book cause I'd like to have a book, that's not a good reason. That seems like a very healthy outlook. Well, I'm looking forward to the next one, whenever it comes, no pressure.
Yeah, thank you. So is my publisher. They're probably listening to this thinking, he should be writing right now and not doing this interview. Well, James, in the meantime, thank you for helping us all build better habits and occasionally even achieve our goals too. Awesome. Thanks, Adam. James makes such a compelling case that instead of asking, what do I want to achieve? It's more motivating to ask, what kind of person do I want to become?
For James, that means he's not focused on the result of how many books he publishes or how many copies he sells, but rather on being the kind of person who has something worth sharing. I now think this question has much bigger implications than I realized going in. Who do I want to become? What kind of person do I want to be? That's not just useful for reaching your goals, it's also helpful for identifying your goals. Figuring out what's important to you, and then making sure that when you achieve it, it actually aligns with your values! ["In the Life of Howard Schultz"]
Rethinking is hosted by me, Adam Grant, and produced by TED with Cosmic Standard.
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The interview discusses the complexities of book titling, emphasizing the need for titles to be unique, enlightening on the book's content and striking a balance between being general and specific. The given example, "We're Small Habits," criticizes it for being too general and common.
「小さな習慣」という本の題名についてインタビューで話し合う中で、題名作りの複雑さについて議論しました。題名は一方でユニークである必要があり、他方では書籍の内容を明らかにし、一般的でありながらも具体的である必要があります。例として挙げられた「小さな習慣」という題名は、あまりにも一般的であり、ありふれていると批判しました。
- The role of social environments as influencers on one's habits is mentioned as an underestimated aspect while writing the book, "Atomic Habits." The importance of belonging often overpowers the desire to improve, per the author's observation.
「アトミック・ハビット」という本を書く際に、人の習慣に影響を与える社会環境の役割が過小評価されていると提唱しました。 belonging your tribes: belong is necessary to improve our habits.
「アトミック・ハビット」という本を書く際、社会環境が個々の習慣に与える影響の役割は少ないと考えていた。著者の観察では、居場所の重要性が向上する欲求をしばしば上回る。
- The author addresses the pressure of creating a successor to a successful book, stating that he sees "Atomic Habits" as a well-executed project and acknowledges the need for different writing approaches over time.
著者は成功した本の後続作を作るプレッシャーについて主張し、「アトミックハビット」を上手く実行されたプロジェクトと見て、時間と共に異なる作文アプローチが必要となることを認識しています。
成功した本の後継作品を作り出すためのプレッシャーについて、彼は「アトミック・ハビット」をうまく実行したプロジェクトと見なしています。また、時間が経つにつれて異なる執筆手法が必要であることを認識しています。
- The author prefers focusing on the quality of his writing rather than the number of books he publishes. He believes in sharing ideas that are meaningful and align with his values.
著者は出版する本の数よりも執筆の質に焦点を当てることを好みます。彼は自身の価値観に沿った有意義な考えを共有することが重要だと信じています。
彼は自分が出版する本の数よりも、自分の執筆の質に焦点を当てることを好みます。彼は自分の価値観に合致した意味のある考えを共有することを信じています。
- The overarching theme of the interview emphasizes the question, "What kind of person do I want to become?" This question is portrayed to be more important than achieving specific goals, acting as a guiding principal for establishing values and identifying goals.
インタビュー全体のテーマは、「自分がどのような人間になりたいのか？」という問いに重きを置いています。この問題は、特定の目標を達成することよりも重要であり、価値を確立し目標を特定するための指導原則として機能します。
インタビュー全体を通じて、「自分がどのような人になりたいのか？」という問いが強調されています。この問いは、具体的な目標を達成することよりも重要であり、価値観を確立し、目標を特定するためのガイディングプリンシプルとして機能します。★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】
- We're Small Habits（ウィーアースモールハビッツ）
- Barak Obama（バラク・オバマ）
- Atomic Habits（アトミック・ハビッツ）
- Four hour workweek（4時間ワークウィーク）
- Life changing magic of tidying up（人生が変わる片づけの魔法）
- Howard Schultz（ハワード・シュルツ）
- Adam Grant（アダム・グラント）
【英単語】
- distinctiveness（特異性）
- contrast（対比）
- subtitle（副題）
- articulate（明確に言う）
- implement（実行する）
- pervasive（広がっている）
- ostracized（追放される）
- iteration（反復）
【コロケーション】
- stand out（目立つ）
- deliver on（約束を果たす）
- personal and universal（個人的でありつつ普遍的）
- make it actionable and useful（それを行動可能で有用なものにする）
- the power of social environment on habits（習慣に対する社会環境の力）
- shared expectations（共有された期待）
- the desire to belong（属することへの欲求）
- second album syndrome（二作目症候群）
Our team includes Collin Helms, Eliza Smith, Jakob Winick, Asja Simpson, Samaya Adams, Michelle Quinn, Benbent Cheng, Hannah Kingsley-Mah, Julia Dickerson, and Whitney Pennington-Rogers. This episode was produced and mixed by Cosmic Standard. Our fact checker is Paul Durbin. Original music by Hansdale Soo and Alison Layton-Brown. "In the Life of Howard Schultz" I am also recording and trying to match your hairstyle for today. "Yeah, I know, right. We're, we've got a little club of bald thought leaders. I feel like there are more bald people in that category than people with hair, but for sure." "Yeah. Maybe, maybe I just pay more attention to them."
★ここまでの要約・日本語訳★
- The team of the program includes Collin Helms, Eliza Smith, Jakob Winick, Asja Simpson, Samaya Adams, Michelle Quinn, Benbent Cheng, Hannah Kingsley-Mah, Julia Dickerson, and Whitney Pennington-Rogers.
- この番組のチームには、Collin Helms、Eliza Smith、Jakob Winick、Asja Simpson、Samaya Adams、Michelle Quinn、Benbent Cheng、Hannah Kingsley-Mah、Julia Dickerson、 Whitney Pennington-Rogersが含まれています。
- The episode was produced and mixed by Cosmic Standard.
- このエピソードはCosmic Standardによって製作およびミックスされました。
- The fact checker of the program is Paul Durbin.
- この番組のファクトチェッカーはPaul Durbinです。
- The original music was by Hansdale Soo and Alison Layton-Brown.
- オリジナル音楽はHansdale SooとAlison Layton-Brownによるものです。
- The interviewee was mimicking the bald hairstyle of many thought leaders.
- インタビュイーは、多くの思考リーダーの禿げた髪型を模倣していました。
★ここまでの特徴的な固有名詞・英単語・英語表現★
【固有名詞】
- Collin Helms（コリン・ヘルムズ）
- Eliza Smith（エリザ・スミス）
- Jakob Winick（ジャコブ・ウィニック）
- Asja Simpson（アジャ・シンプソン）
- Samaya Adams（サマヤ・アダムズ）
- Michelle Quinn（ミシェル・クイン）
- Benbent Cheng（ベンベント・チェン）
- Hannah Kingsley-Mah（ハンナ・キングスリー・マー）
- Julia Dickerson（ジュリア・ディッカーソン）
- Whitney Pennington-Rogers（ホワイトニー・ペニントン・ロジャーズ）
- Cosmic Standard（コズミック・スタンダード）
- Howard Schultz（ハワード・シュルツ）
- Paul Durbin（ポール・ダービン）
- Hansdale Soo（ハンズデール・スー）
- Alison Layton-Brown（アリソン・レイトン・ブラウン）
【英単語】
- team（チーム）
- episode（エピソード）
- produced（製作した）
- mixed（ミックスした）
- fact checker（ファクトチェッカー）
- original music（オリジナル音楽）
- recording（録音）
- hairstyle（髪型）
- club（クラブ）
- attention（注意）
【コロケーション】
- includes...（〜を含む）
- produced and mixed by（〜によって製作とミックスをした）
- trying to match（マッチしようとする）
- pay attention to（注意を払う）
